1972 Ferrari 365 GTC/4
1972 Ferrari Other 365 GTC/4
Ferrari Other 1972 technical specifications | |
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Condition: | Used |
Item location: | San Diego, California, United States |
Make: | Ferrari |
Model: | Other |
Type: | Coupe |
Trim: | 365 GTC/4 |
Year: | 1972 |
Mileage: | 50,525 |
VIN: | F101AC100*15189* |
Color: | Rosso Cherry |
Engine size: | 12 cylinder |
Number of cylinders: | 12 |
Power options: | Air Conditioning, Power Windows |
Fuel: | Gasoline |
Transmission: | 5-Speed Manual |
Drive type: | 2WD |
Interior color: | Black Cogolo (Full Leather) |
Drive side: | Left-hand drive |
Options: | Cassette Player, Leather Seats |
Vehicle Title: | Clear |
You are interested? | Contact the seller! |
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Year1972MakeFerrariModel365GTC/4TypeTwo-door, 2+2 Seat BerlinettaChassis NoFerrari F 101 AC 100 *15189*Engine NoFerrari F 101 AC 000 *00250*Gearbox No616 300Rear Axle No616 N250Rear Axle Ratio11 x 45 (4.09:1)Body No108Pininfarina Job No256Production Sequence No256 of 505Exterior ColorRosso Cherry (Color Code 95.3.9301 IT.)Interior ColorBlack Cogolo (Full Leather)CompletedJanuary 1972Ordered New ByChinetti Garthwaite Imports, Inc.1234 Lancaster AvenueRosemont, PA 19010 USAOrdering DateJuly 6th, 1972Order Placed ByJose Luis De Pedroso534 New Gulph RoadHaverford, PA 19041 USAInvoicedJuly 10th, 1972 on Invoice No. 1795, stock No. F88For a total purchase price of $18,675DeliveredFerrari Client Services, Modena, Italia August 2nd, 1972(Tourist EE plate delivery for Summer Holiday Use)Options-Extra Set of Chrome Borranii Wire Wheels (Fitted)-Extra Complete Set of “Three-Eared” Knock Offs-USA Equipment-USA Instruments-Air Conditioning-Becker Mexico Olympia Radio with Electric Antenna and Speaker System-Tool and Jack Kit-Complete Set Including Spare, Michelin XWX Tires of size 215/70 VR 15-One Set of Seat Protectors-Body Shipping Protectors-EE Tourist Plates and Green Card InsuranceMileage50,525 Miles
According to Ferrari’s internal records, this particular Ferrari 365GTC/4 was completed new in January 1972 as a standard USA model with an exterior in Rosso Cherry (Color Code 95.3.9301 IT,) and an interior finished inBlack Cogolo (Full Leather.) This Ferrari was built under Pininfarina Production Sequence No. 256. The individual component numbers at the time of production and to this day are as follows:
-Body No108-Production Sequence No256-Engine No250-Gearbox No300-Rear Axle No250
(This is as such an all matching number vehicle retaining the main components, frame and body as originally assigned and completed by Ferrari in January of 1972)
Several moths after completion, this Ferrari was then assigned for sale on an order placed on July 6th, 1972 by Chinetti Garthwaite Imports, Inc., of 1234 Lancaster Avenue, Rosemont, PA 19010 USA on behalf of new owner, Jose Luis De Pedroso of 534 New Gulph Road, Haverford, PA 19041 USA. The order specified the car would be ready for delivery at Ferrari Client Services in Modena with assigned tourist “EE” plates and “Green Card” insurance in place for Mr. De Pedroso’s use that Summer. Per Mr. De Pedroso’s order, this Ferrari was completed specifically as follows:
-Extra Set of Chrome Borranii Wire Wheels (Fitted)
-Extra Complete Set of “Three-Eared” Knock Offs
-USA Equipment
-USA Instruments
-Air Conditioning
-Becker Mexico Olympia Radio with Electric Antenna and Speaker System-Tool and Jack Kit
-One Set of Seat Protectors
-Body Shipping Protectors
-Complete Set Including Spare, Michelin XWX Tires of size 215/70 VR 15
-EE Tourist Plates and Green Card Insurance
Mr. De Pedroso agreed to pay $18,675 for this Ferrari but was given a credit of $9,000 by trading in his 1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4, s/n 10099.
Mr. De Pedroso accepted delivery of his new Ferrari from Client Services on August 2nd, 1972. He then enjoyed the vehicle on a European holiday returning it to Ferrari Client Services at the end of August, 1972 at which time he requested that the vehicle be serviced and prepared at his expense for delivery via Chinetti Garthwaite Imports, Inc., in Rosemont, PA for follow on delivery to his home in Haverford, PA.
Mr. De Pedroso retained and enjoyed this Ferrari over the next 26 years and was recorded in various FOC and FCA registers as the owner residing and maintaining the Ferrari at his home in Haverford, PA 19041 USA. Sometime circa 1990 the vehicle began to perform poorly backfiring and having starting and driving issues. The car was stored and not driven when it was offered for sale by De Pedroso. This Ferrari was then sold and purchased by Karam Automotive, Inc., of 104 North Patton Street, West Chester, PA 19380 and then sent to Algar Ferrari of Rosemont, PA 19010 on September 8th, 1998. At the time of purchase and this service, this Ferrari had covered 20,807 miles from new.
Upon completion of these services, this Ferrari was offered for public sale. In February of 1999, David Romer of 5565Canoga Avenue, No. 304, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 requested the services of noted Ferrari Restorer, Mike Regalia to source and located a suitable V12, front engined Ferrari to supplement a 1985 308 GTS Quatrovalve that Mr. Regalia had previously sourced for him. On March 31st, 1999, David Romer and his brother, Richard Romer agreed to purchase this Ferrari through Mike Regalia’s services for a price of $58,000. The vehicle was to be delivered to Mr. Regalia’s home in Sun Valley, California where it would receive a full bare-metal repaint and extensive restoration and repair work over the next ten months. The car was then over the next 14 years carefully cared for and serviced by the Romer Brothers without consideration for time or expense until their eventual sale in the Summer of 2014 to a private collector in Northern California. The following letter written by former owner, David Romer outlines a bit of the history of this Ferrari during his and his brother’s ownership:
David Romer
Los Angeles, California
September 14, 2014
Re: C/415189
Mike Regalia found 365GTC/4 SN 15189 for me inMike had acted as myagent finding my first Ferrari – a 1985 308 GTS QV.After buying that car I quickly figured outthat the front engine V12’swere where I wanted to be.In 1999 Mike was running the restorationdepartment of the Nethercutt Museum here in Sylmar Ca.I was introduced to him through RobertNethercutt, a flying friend of mine.Thecar wasLocated back east. We bought it the car and had it shipped directly toMike’s home and shop in Sun Valley for a bare metal repaint and mechanicalsorting prior to me taking possession.If you are not familiar with MikeRegalia, He is a very well respectedFerrari Restorer probably best known for his work and Sale of the Steve McQueen250GTL (Lusso)
I have a binder with the photos of theThe color that we painted thecar was the same color that the factory painted it when new. The interiorofthe car is original black leather / black carpet.I re-dyed the front seats this year and themouse fur was replaced in 99 with the correct material.I have the factory build sheet that isincluded in the photo set thatshows the original colors and options.The motor was strong when we bought the car.We pulled the engine compartment down to the heads and rebuilt everythingelse.Today the car shows 49, XXXoriginal miles. Ibelieve that my brother Richard and I are the 3rdowners of the car.
Note that 15189 has always been in goodThis car is not a Franken-C/4that somebody has dolled up for sale at auction.The car is a matching numbers car that wasunmolested, 100% intact and correct when Ibought it.When Mike took the paint off, the originalpaint by the way.The only signs ofdamage was a repair on the front right headlight bucket.Everything that belongs in a C/4 is in placeand is correct all the waydown to the Cheney hose clamps.
Recently, I have done some significant work onIn the last 2 years, thesuspension has been rebuilt and I changed the rear load levelers out for Konicoil overs. I still have the original load Levelers. In the lastyear I haverebuilt the transmission and the rear end. The starter motor has been replaced,the alternator has been rebuilt.The relay/ fuse block has been removed, cleaned and re-grounded.The water pump with boththe water and oilseals have been replaced.The BeckerMexico radio was serviced last year and plays correctly.The A/C was serviced this summer and it blowscold.The cars sits on new Michelin XWXtires.Maybe2000 miles on them now.
The car is reluctantly for sale. It is jointlyowned by me and my brother Richard.Thecar is at his house.His wife is alittle tired of it taking up ½ of the garage and he doesn’t really driveit.Me, I’m not working and Icannot buyhim out.So it appears that it is timefor a new caretaker for 15189.
During the Romer Brother’s ownership of this Ferrari it was shown publicly on several occasions in a variety of different events scoring several important awards. These include the following:
-2000Concours ItalianoGold Award-2000Palos Verdes Concours d’Elegance3rd Place-2002Ferrari Club of America Annual Meet Century City, CAPlatinum Award-2008MB of Beverly Hills Charity Classic1st in Class Early Ferrari, pre-1974-2013Concours ItalianoGold Award-2014Concours ItalianoPlatinum Award
On May 6th, 2015, this Ferrari was acquired by Titan Investments, LLC of Missoula, Montana, a dealer collector investment company specializing in classic Ferraris and other collectible automobiles.
On February 14th, 2017 this vehicle was sold by Titan Investments LLC and acquired by Symbolic International after several weeks of involved evaluations and negotiations. The vehicle was carefully inspected and found to be completely rust and accident free example, complete with all original books, leather pouch, complete jack and tool kits as well as both original sets of Borrani and Chromodoro Alloy wheels and even the original extra set of knock off spinners. An extremely comprehensive documentation album further complements this Ferrari as it contains the original purchasing records and extensive service, repair and restoration records going back to new. The engine was given a careful compression check with the following results:
Cylinder No.Pressure118021653180418051756175714581459150101701117012175
The vehicle was further inspected and verified to retain all of its original coachwork, chassis and individual components as completed new by Ferrari, IE; “Matching Numbers. It was also noted that in addition to driving without issue, the original radio, clock and air conditioning system were all in excellent working order. All three of these components are noted as being notoriously fussy and these all worked as if new. It was further noted that while this was a regular production “North American Market” vehicle, it was delivered new in Italy and shown on the invoice as having both sets of wheels and both the round as well as “Three-Eared” knock offs. The engine detailing, a notoriously weak area of most Ferrari 365 GTC/4s is extremely nice on this particular Ferrari. Both the correct hood blanket and all of the rare original emissions equipment items are intact and functioning as new.
Ownership History:
January1972Ferrari S.p.AMaranello,ItalyJuly1972Chinetti Garthwaite MotorsRosemont,PAJuly1972Jose Luis De PedrosoHaverford,PAJune1998Karam AutomotiveWest Chester,PAMarch1999David and Richard RomerLos Angeles,CAMay2015Titan Investments LLCMissoula,MTFebruary2017Symbolic InternationalSan Diego,CA
Leaving out the manufacturer and dealers involved in the purchase and sale of this Ferrari, the vehicles’s two private owners were:
Jose Luis De Pedroso
and
David and Richard Romer
It would be very difficult if not impossible to find a more honest and correct as well as fully documented Ferrari 365GTC/4. I can provide and I am happy to assist with full, world-wide, door-to-door delivery as needed. Please contact me for additional assistance in arranging for a test-drive and inspections of this Ferrari.
Kind regards always,
Bill Noon
Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego, California 92121 USA
Phone619 840 7811
Emailbill@symbolicinternational.com
Websitehttp://symbolicinternational.com
According to Ferrari’s internal records, this particular Ferrari 365GTC/4 was completed new in January 1972 as a standard USA model with an exterior in Rosso Cherry (Color Code 95.3.9301 IT,) and an interior finished inBlack Cogolo (Full Leather.) This Ferrari was built under Pininfarina Production Sequence No. 256. The individual component numbers at the time of production and to this day are as follows:
-Body No108-Production Sequence No256-Engine No250-Gearbox No300-Rear Axle No250
(This is as such an all matching number vehicle retaining the main components, frame and body as originally assigned and completed by Ferrari in January of 1972)
Several moths after completion, this Ferrari was then assigned for sale on an order placed on July 6th, 1972 by Chinetti Garthwaite Imports, Inc., of 1234 Lancaster Avenue, Rosemont, PA 19010 USA on behalf of new owner, Jose Luis De Pedroso of 534 New Gulph Road, Haverford, PA 19041 USA. The order specified the car would be ready for delivery at Ferrari Client Services in Modena with assigned tourist “EE” plates and “Green Card” insurance in place for Mr. De Pedroso’s use that Summer. Per Mr. De Pedroso’s order, this Ferrari was completed specifically as follows:
-Extra Set of Chrome Borranii Wire Wheels (Fitted)
-Extra Complete Set of “Three-Eared” Knock Offs
-USA Equipment
-USA Instruments
-Air Conditioning
-Becker Mexico Olympia Radio with Electric Antenna and Speaker System-Tool and Jack Kit
-One Set of Seat Protectors
-Body Shipping Protectors
-Complete Set Including Spare, Michelin XWX Tires of size 215/70 VR 15
-EE Tourist Plates and Green Card Insurance
Mr. De Pedroso agreed to pay $18,675 for this Ferrari but was given a credit of $9,000 by trading in his 1967 Ferrari 275 GTB/4, s/n 10099.
Mr. De Pedroso accepted delivery of his new Ferrari from Client Services on August 2nd, 1972. He then enjoyed the vehicle on a European holiday returning it to Ferrari Client Services at the end of August, 1972 at which time he requested that the vehicle be serviced and prepared at his expense for delivery via Chinetti Garthwaite Imports, Inc., in Rosemont, PA for follow on delivery to his home in Haverford, PA.
Mr. De Pedroso retained and enjoyed this Ferrari over the next 26 years and was recorded in various FOC and FCA registers as the owner residing and maintaining the Ferrari at his home in Haverford, PA 19041 USA. Sometime circa 1990 the vehicle began to perform poorly backfiring and having starting and driving issues. The car was stored and not driven when it was offered for sale by De Pedroso. This Ferrari was then sold and purchased by Karam Automotive, Inc., of 104 North Patton Street, West Chester, PA 19380 and then sent to Algar Ferrari of Rosemont, PA 19010 on September 8th, 1998. At the time of purchase and this service, this Ferrari had covered 20,807 miles from new.
Upon completion of these services, this Ferrari was offered for public sale. In February of 1999, David Romer of 5565Canoga Avenue, No. 304, Woodland Hills, CA 91367 requested the services of noted Ferrari Restorer, Mike Regalia to source and located a suitable V12, front engined Ferrari to supplement a 1985 308 GTS Quatrovalve that Mr. Regalia had previously sourced for him. On March 31st, 1999, David Romer and his brother, Richard Romer agreed to purchase this Ferrari through Mike Regalia’s services for a price of $58,000. The vehicle was to be delivered to Mr. Regalia’s home in Sun Valley, California where it would receive a full bare-metal repaint and extensive restoration and repair work over the next ten months. The car was then over the next 14 years carefully cared for and serviced by the Romer Brothers without consideration for time or expense until their eventual sale in the Summer of 2014 to a private collector in Northern California. The following letter written by former owner, David Romer outlines a bit of the history of this Ferrari during his and his brother’s ownership:
David Romer
Los Angeles, California
September 14, 2014
Re: C/415189
Mike Regalia found 365GTC/4 SN 15189 for me inMike had acted as myagent finding my first Ferrari – a 1985 308 GTS QV.After buying that car I quickly figured outthat the front engine V12’swere where I wanted to be.In 1999 Mike was running the restorationdepartment of the Nethercutt Museum here in Sylmar Ca.I was introduced to him through RobertNethercutt, a flying friend of mine.Thecar wasLocated back east. We bought it the car and had it shipped directly toMike’s home and shop in Sun Valley for a bare metal repaint and mechanicalsorting prior to me taking possession.If you are not familiar with MikeRegalia, He is a very well respectedFerrari Restorer probably best known for his work and Sale of the Steve McQueen250GTL (Lusso)
I have a binder with the photos of theThe color that we painted thecar was the same color that the factory painted it when new. The interiorofthe car is original black leather / black carpet.I re-dyed the front seats this year and themouse fur was replaced in 99 with the correct material.I have the factory build sheet that isincluded in the photo set thatshows the original colors and options.The motor was strong when we bought the car.We pulled the engine compartment down to the heads and rebuilt everythingelse.Today the car shows 49, XXXoriginal miles. Ibelieve that my brother Richard and I are the 3rdowners of the car.
Note that 15189 has always been in goodThis car is not a Franken-C/4that somebody has dolled up for sale at auction.The car is a matching numbers car that wasunmolested, 100% intact and correct when Ibought it.When Mike took the paint off, the originalpaint by the way.The only signs ofdamage was a repair on the front right headlight bucket.Everything that belongs in a C/4 is in placeand is correct all the waydown to the Cheney hose clamps.
Recently, I have done some significant work onIn the last 2 years, thesuspension has been rebuilt and I changed the rear load levelers out for Konicoil overs. I still have the original load Levelers. In the lastyear I haverebuilt the transmission and the rear end. The starter motor has been replaced,the alternator has been rebuilt.The relay/ fuse block has been removed, cleaned and re-grounded.The water pump with boththe water and oilseals have been replaced.The BeckerMexico radio was serviced last year and plays correctly.The A/C was serviced this summer and it blowscold.The cars sits on new Michelin XWXtires.Maybe2000 miles on them now.
The car is reluctantly for sale. It is jointlyowned by me and my brother Richard.Thecar is at his house.His wife is alittle tired of it taking up ½ of the garage and he doesn’t really driveit.Me, I’m not working and Icannot buyhim out.So it appears that it is timefor a new caretaker for 15189.
During the Romer Brother’s ownership of this Ferrari it was shown publicly on several occasions in a variety of different events scoring several important awards. These include the following:
-2000Concours ItalianoGold Award-2000Palos Verdes Concours d’Elegance3rd Place-2002Ferrari Club of America Annual Meet Century City, CAPlatinum Award-2008MB of Beverly Hills Charity Classic1st in Class Early Ferrari, pre-1974-2013Concours ItalianoGold Award-2014Concours ItalianoPlatinum Award
On May 6th, 2015, this Ferrari was acquired by Titan Investments, LLC of Missoula, Montana, a dealer collector investment company specializing in classic Ferraris and other collectible automobiles.
On February 14th, 2017 this vehicle was sold by Titan Investments LLC and acquired by Symbolic International after several weeks of involved evaluations and negotiations. The vehicle was carefully inspected and found to be completely rust and accident free example, complete with all original books, leather pouch, complete jack and tool kits as well as both original sets of Borrani and Chromodoro Alloy wheels and even the original extra set of knock off spinners. An extremely comprehensive documentation album further complements this Ferrari as it contains the original purchasing records and extensive service, repair and restoration records going back to new. The engine was given a careful compression check with the following results:
Cylinder No.Pressure118021653180418051756175714581459150101701117012175
The vehicle was further inspected and verified to retain all of its original coachwork, chassis and individual components as completed new by Ferrari, IE; “Matching Numbers. It was also noted that in addition to driving without issue, the original radio, clock and air conditioning system were all in excellent working order. All three of these components are noted as being notoriously fussy and these all worked as if new. It was further noted that while this was a regular production “North American Market” vehicle, it was delivered new in Italy and shown on the invoice as having both sets of wheels and both the round as well as “Three-Eared” knock offs. The engine detailing, a notoriously weak area of most Ferrari 365 GTC/4s is extremely nice on this particular Ferrari. Both the correct hood blanket and all of the rare original emissions equipment items are intact and functioning as new.
Ownership History:
January1972Ferrari S.p.AMaranello,ItalyJuly1972Chinetti Garthwaite MotorsRosemont,PAJuly1972Jose Luis De PedrosoHaverford,PAJune1998Karam AutomotiveWest Chester,PAMarch1999David and Richard RomerLos Angeles,CAMay2015Titan Investments LLCMissoula,MTFebruary2017Symbolic InternationalSan Diego,CA
Leaving out the manufacturer and dealers involved in the purchase and sale of this Ferrari, the vehicles’s two private owners were:
Jose Luis De Pedroso
and
David and Richard Romer
It would be very difficult if not impossible to find a more honest and correct as well as fully documented Ferrari 365GTC/4. I can provide and I am happy to assist with full, world-wide, door-to-door delivery as needed. Please contact me for additional assistance in arranging for a test-drive and inspections of this Ferrari.
Kind regards always,
Bill Noon
Symbolic International
11425 Sorrento Valley Road
San Diego, California 92121 USA
Phone619 840 7811
Emailbill@symbolicinternational.com
Websitehttp://symbolicinternational.com